‘Don’t know who to believe!’ Richard Madeley skewers Hinds MP on energy prices

Richard Madeley grills Damian Hinds over energy prices

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Richard Madeley lashed out at Security Minister Damian Hinds about “not knowing who to believe” in dealing with the ongoing energy crisis when he appeared on Good Morning Britain. Madeley grilled the minister over household bills possibly rising by hundreds of pounds next year – and he and Susanna Reid didn’t appear to be convinced by the minister’s answers.

During the episode of the ITV show, Reid and Madeley quizzed Mr Hinds about the potential rise in energy prices impacting the nation.

They told the minister that Business Secretary Kwasi Kwarteng has said he is working closely with Chancellor Rishi Sunak over possible support for energy sectors.

However, they explained that a Treasury source has reportedly denied this.

But Mr Hinds stated he doesn’t know who the source is and instead highlighted the importance of the government working together.

Madeley fumed: “Who do we believe? Do we believe the Business Secretary or do we believe an unnamed source at the Treasury? Who do you believe?

Mr Hinds replied: “Well I think part of the clue there is in the phrase you just used – an unnamed source.

“I wasn’t aware of that conversation and I think neither were you. We don’t know what was in that conversation.

“What I do know is that government ministers are in constant touch with each other and government ministers and departments are in constant touch with each other as they should be.”

He added: “And on an issue like the global rise of energy prices, of course, the Business Secretary is going to be very focused on industry and particularly energy.

“And of course the Treasury is going to be very focused on the effects of the economy.”

A confused Susanna chimed in: “Hang on a minute. So the Business Secretary is in talks with the treasury over what could be done to help in this crisis?”

Mr Hinds replied: “What I was saying Susanna is that government ministers talk to each other and departments are in touch with each other as well.”

Mr Hinds then found himself defending prime minister Boris Johnson’s decision to go on holiday while the government is divided over the energy crisis and inflation on the rise.

He explained to Reid and Madeley that Mr Johnson is still in charge of decisions.  

The minister said: “You’re always in touch and always a phone call away, but I do think it’s important that everyone should have a break and everyone should have some downtime and some rest.

“But the whole of the government takes responsibility for government policy.

“You are quite right that this rise in gas prices is a significant issue and of course it’s right the Business Secretary and Energy Secretary should be very focused on this.”

It comes after the government announced plans to phase out gas boilers, and instead install 600,000 heat pumps a year by 2028.

The Heating and Hot Water Industry Council (HHIC) has claimed that not only will this plan cost over five million homes an extra £2.500 a year, but that a move away from gas will also discourage the next generation from working in the gas industry, which could result in another energy crisis.

Good Morning Britain airs weekdays on ITV.

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